http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#b282d982-8704-4d18-a63f-24da5c08f92e You've hit two words without known etymologies. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. OTOH, -on / -one in Spanish / Italian is a pejorative augmentative suffix: e.g., testone 'blockhead (lit., big head)', mujeron 'big woman', cabron 'big, old goat', etc. But -ino is a diminutive, cute suffix. Go figure. Seems like the -on part of dudgeon / curmudgeon might be something like that. They seem like Anglo-Norman loanwords. Wed, 22 Jun 2005 00:29:57 GMT http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#b282d982-8704-4d18-a63f-24da5c08f92e jheem 2005-06-22T00:29:57Z http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#424242ab-eeb2-471c-b55e-ce5436d1517a what does the -udgeon part mean? related to curm-udgeon ? Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:12:17 GMT http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#424242ab-eeb2-471c-b55e-ce5436d1517a ludmilla 2005-06-21T23:12:17Z http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#912a5a51-f9d7-4e8b-88d5-25c2aef595e0 Usually seen coupled with high. Often mispronounced dungeon. Etymology unknown. There's a homonym, dudgeon, which is an archaic word for dagger. Its etymology is possibly known: from Anglo-Norman ... Sat, 04 Dec 2004 02:59:47 GMT http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#912a5a51-f9d7-4e8b-88d5-25c2aef595e0 jheem 2004-12-04T02:59:47Z http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#ff615950-ac29-4ecd-b5eb-df39121c8ddf discuss... Fri, 03 Dec 2004 21:43:01 GMT http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#ff615950-ac29-4ecd-b5eb-df39121c8ddf ludmilla 2004-12-03T21:43:01Z