Tribe.net. Local Connections jheem http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#b282d982-8704-4d18-a63f-24da5c08f92e 2005-06-22T00:29:57Z 2005-06-22T00:29:57Z

You've hit two words without known etymologies. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. OTOH, -on / -one in Spanish / Italian is a pejorative augmentative suffix: e.g., testone 'blockhead (lit., big head)', mujeron 'big woman', cabron 'big, old goat', etc. But -ino is a diminutive, cute suffix. Go figure. Seems like the -on part of dudgeon / curmudgeon might be something like that. They seem like Anglo-Norman loanwords.

jheem 2005-06-22T00:29:57Z ludmilla http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#424242ab-eeb2-471c-b55e-ce5436d1517a 2005-06-21T23:12:17Z 2005-06-21T23:12:17Z

what does the -udgeon part mean? related to curm-udgeon ?

ludmilla 2005-06-21T23:12:17Z jheem http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#912a5a51-f9d7-4e8b-88d5-25c2aef595e0 2004-12-04T02:59:47Z 2004-12-04T02:59:47Z

Usually seen coupled with high. Often mispronounced dungeon. Etymology unknown. There's a homonym, dudgeon, which is an archaic word for dagger. Its etymology is possibly known: from Anglo-Norman ...

jheem 2004-12-04T02:59:47Z ludmilla http://etykaiento.tribe.net/thread/bd75d582-abab-40c5-9cba-498755631f1b#ff615950-ac29-4ecd-b5eb-df39121c8ddf 2004-12-03T21:43:01Z 2004-12-03T21:43:01Z

discuss...

ludmilla 2004-12-03T21:43:01Z